ADVOCATE 101
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(TIP: Jumping up and down demanding that villages are our constitutional RIGHT, is not very fruitful!)
SOME BASICS
VACANT LAND
CARAVAN OR CERTIFIED BUILDING?
CARAVAN OR CERTIFIED BUILDING?
Please keep in mind, that if you are trying to get a tiny home on your own vacant land, you are in need of a PRIMARY DWELLING approval... it is different, no matter if the dwelling is on wheels or not.
Council, rightly so, are often uninterested in people trying to bypass the rules that all the other houses in the area had to abide by, si
Please keep in mind, that if you are trying to get a tiny home on your own vacant land, you are in need of a PRIMARY DWELLING approval... it is different, no matter if the dwelling is on wheels or not.
Council, rightly so, are often uninterested in people trying to bypass the rules that all the other houses in the area had to abide by, simply because the house is 'small'.
The only alternative here is to abide by the normal DAs, or request "Temporary use".
The issue that council should look into, is that to have a tiny house on a vacant block as a primary dwelling - the council need to revisit some aspects of their DA applications, so not to exclude tiny houses completely.
Majority of Tiny Houses can not meet NCC and this is a constant battle with councils and legislators to get them to acknowledge that a house under 50sqm, should be exempt from SOME of the code.
For this reason many people go for a Modular builder which can be built to code (more expensive) - however, you can then have a tiny house as a secondary dwelling and rent it out to counter the additional costs.
CARAVAN OR CERTIFIED BUILDING?
CARAVAN OR CERTIFIED BUILDING?
CARAVAN OR CERTIFIED BUILDING?
TINY HOUSES ON WHEELS ARE A CARAVAN
Remember that a tiny home on wheels is a CARAVAN and is not subject to building codes.
For the same reason, a council can not impose same laws on a Caravan that they can on a "Building".
Unfortunately, this also triggers a response from council that you can only LIVE in one for a limited amount of time
TINY HOUSES ON WHEELS ARE A CARAVAN
Remember that a tiny home on wheels is a CARAVAN and is not subject to building codes.
For the same reason, a council can not impose same laws on a Caravan that they can on a "Building".
Unfortunately, this also triggers a response from council that you can only LIVE in one for a limited amount of time (catch 22).
If your Council allows a secondary dwelling to LIVE in for a CERTIFIED building, you CAN get a tiny house certified (it will need a footings plan, upstair lofts will be 'Storage only loft for height reasons', the frame must be engineer certified, so get the certifier BEFORE the cladding goes on if you can. The certifier may choose to use the terms "Deemed to Satisfy" (if he can - and sign off your forms).
Ultimately, talk to your builder if it is important for you to go through council and not be a "caravan" for the purposes of rules and regulations.
A TINY HOUSE VILLAGE
CARAVAN OR CERTIFIED BUILDING?
A TINY HOUSE VILLAGE
VILLAGES: Includes any set up where there are more than 1 tiny house. These are complex. At present most councils will look at a tiny home village as either;
A Caravan Park (which entails applying for a caravan park licence and 'change of land use' development application, taking several years, considerable expense, and very often objec
VILLAGES: Includes any set up where there are more than 1 tiny house. These are complex. At present most councils will look at a tiny home village as either;
A Caravan Park (which entails applying for a caravan park licence and 'change of land use' development application, taking several years, considerable expense, and very often objected to by the surrounding neighbourhood ;
OR You can buy a caravan park that is already operating, with a licence in place ... again not a small investment.
If a caravan park is bought for $5million, how is the investor to realise the ROI, charging small, affordable amounts of rent/lease?
Hence the lack of AFFORDABLE SOLUTIONS.
Some councils have, on their own assets register, under-used caravan parks. Finding out more about what the Council already own, and what permits are in place, can be useful if looking to set up a village, done as a collaborative project WITH the council.
Alternatively, finding a well-funded charity that can purchase the land/caravan park may be a way forward..
CO -COMMUNITY - there are examples where people have collectively bought land (Through a PTY LTD company and issued shares... sharing the land as a community - each having rights through their shares, which they can also sell if they wish to move.) Works perfectly well... the only catch being that having the multiple homes on the property could trigger Council to issue show cause for "running a caravan park".
MEANWHILE - off the radar, there are many co-communities that are living the dream, but because they are off the radar, it is difficult to find them with ease. Get involved on community facebook groups and seek them out (they will PM you).
Legal stuff that is handy to read
MOUNT ALEXANDER SHIRE VIC
Council need only COPY AND PASTE this legislation, for a quick and easy solution for Tiny Homes. Simple, easy
- WELL DONE Mt Alexander Shire
SHIRE OF ESPERANCE WA
This is the UNICORN of legislation - Esperance went above and beyond and this would be the ultimate goal to achieve in any council LGA - at the bottom of this linked page, there is a link to the actual legislation .
BRISBANE COUPLE WIN COURT CASE
COURT OF APPEAL: "the THOW does not constitute building works as defined under the BA and accordingly the Enforcement Notice issued by the Council should be set aside"
NSW Land & Environment Court ruling
COURT OUTCOME: The order issued for the removal of the mobile structure from the premises... is revoked.
As tiny house on wheels is a Caravan
ADELAIDE
Councils behaving in a BULLYING MANNER.
A 'dosier' of councils in SA "behaving badly" is being kept.
Apparently, as I have in writing from one council employee, people applying for tiny houses are "the BANE of their life!" Not very helpful.
Meanwhile - phone a private town planner to deal with council if you are planning on getting permissions in place.
FEBRUARY 2025 UPDATE - see letter further down this page
STUDY - Backyard Living
This study has been used extensively in Tiny House advocacy. The authors, Kylie Bickle, and ESC consultants, based in Brisbane, have been at the forefront of Tiny House legislation and an incredible resource for the Tiny House Community.
VIC - The Housing Statement
Dan Andrews passed legislation for Victorians to fast-track and bypass council planning applications. As a result, a tiny house, (smaller than 60sqm) does NOT require council planning applications. It does however, require a building certification.
The BUILDING ACT (qld)
The QLD Building Act
The Building Act (VIC)
SUNSHINE COAST - Advocacy Group "REGEN"
The Vic Building act
SUNSHINE COAST - Advocacy Group "REGEN"
FRASER COAST- refer to Tiny Houses as "Temporary Dwellings"
SUNSHINE COAST - Advocacy Group "REGEN"
Join REGEN (a Sunshine Coast advocacy group for Tiny Houses, with many resources and government petitions/letters etc that can be helpful for all QLD areas.)
This group is particularly focussed on allowing more than one tiny house on larger properties.
FRASER COAST- refer to Tiny Houses as "Temporary Dwellings"
FRASER COAST- refer to Tiny Houses as "Temporary Dwellings"
FRASER COAST- refer to Tiny Houses as "Temporary Dwellings"
This is very typical of councils - the thought that people would invest $100k+ into a tiny house to stay in temporarily, while building a mcMansion, is very elitist!
There have been much advocacy aimed towards Fraser Coast. They could easily adopt similar strategy as MOUNT ALEXANDER VIC, for example.
Legal stuff that is handy to read
SHOW CAUSE - Council
If you have a problem with a Council - it will come to you as a SHOW CAUSE NOTICE. Be aware that a SHOW CAUSE notice, is simply a council stating that you "MAY" be breaching a rule - or might NOT BE....
This is a great opportunity to request written legislation, policy, backed up with evidence FROM THEM.... (ie: not simple fact sheets, or words 'made up' - but specific legislation).
Read here an example of what SHOW CAUSE means... https://www.ipswich.qld.gov.au/live/issues-and-laws/laws-and-permits-for-residents/show-cause-and-enforcement-notices
in short - it is your chance to have your say and help them decide if it needs to go further... it is NOT an enforcement order. It is just a threat that there could be one. In most instance they will refer to your Tiny House as an ANCILLARY DWELLING. In this case you simply reply "Thank you for your letter, I do not have an Ancillary dwelling on my property, you may be referring to my CARAVAN {enter VIN].. which is niether connected to the land nor lived in permanently, regards.... "
And that is it. Do not elaborate. Do not mention Tiny House. Do not mention your personal circumstances, the builder, your plans... JUST those words. Any further correspondence (which will have BIG threats of possible fines) that relates to Ancillary, simply re-reply the same over and over, until THEY refer to it as a caravan.
Another variance if the show cause relates to breach of building codes is: 'Thank you; as the item you have referenced in the show cause notice is a Caravan (Vin number:..... ) I am of the understanding that the building codes/regulations you specify are not relevant. Please note, the caravan is not being lived in permanently, and is not fixed to the land. Thank you for your attention.
SURF COAST SHIRE POLICY
VICTORIA: Again, a great example on how a council can change rules to meet the needs of people struggling to house themselves. Launched as a Pilot - this policy change was headed by the ATHA
SHELLHARBOUR NSW POLICY
QLD - "It is state government decision" - No, it is local council decision
A new pilot for NSW Shellharbour region was instigated in May 2024, just as NSW as a state began to make moves AGAINST tiny houses (through a crafty amendment to the caravan and moveable dwellings plan - which has been strongly fought against by the tiny house community).
This is planned to be Gazetted at State level opening same frameworks for all NSW councils - in late Jan / Feb 2026.
NSW is currently one of the easier states t have a tiny house - and now should be even easier.
QLD - "It is state government decision" - No, it is local council decision
QLD - "It is state government decision" - No, it is local council decision
In a news article on Channel 7 News Sunshine Coast , Mayor Rosanna Natoli states emphatically that she loves the idea of tiny houses, but local council hands are tied by State Government.
State Premier (and formally the Minister for State Development, Infrastructure, Local Government and Planning) - Steven Miles, has written a letter stating emphatically that his hands are tied because it is a local government decision and he can not enforce the local council.
BOTH have been written to to ask which one is correct....
UPDATE: June 2024:- meeting with Sunshine Coast Council states that LEGAL ADVICE has had to be sought because of the lack of clarity in this issue.
UPDATE : August 2024: Letter from State planning received, saying that local council CAN implement changes - AND they are including Tiny houses in their new affordable housing Qld initiatives. (UPDATE AGAIN 2026: There was NO mention of tiny houses in the new affordable housing initiatives!
UPDATE: 2026 See top of the page for Link to Advocacy, as it seems that councils making their own decisions leaves them open to possible litigious recourse. State need to provide a framework that gives them some "Cover".
explained here: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1Bqqdcqnp4/
You can Live in a tiny house - IF you are a squatter!
SQUATTERS ALLOWED!
This is interesting: - a lady who had her house completely destroyed in the 2022 floods is told by council the can not put a tiny house on her land - nor can she live in a caravan on her land!
She moves into a friends house 3 hours away.
When she recently returned to her acreage property - a SQUATTER in a caravan had moved on to her land.
She requested council to help with removal… and NO! They can not help, she needs to go through court proceedings and her lawyer tells her it could take up to 5 years!
She requested police to assist, and they said NO! It is a civil matter.
So squatters have more rights than the home owner when it comes to putting a tiny house/caravan on their land - AND LIVING IN IT!
(The source and specific council of this information is being withheld from public view due to the employment position of the person (who works for government!)
Oh Dear YARRA Ranges Council!
ANOTHER WIN - the Building Appeals Board (VIC) agrees that a Tiny House on wheels does NOT NEED BUILDING APPROVAL!
UPDATE: Yarra Council are under the impression that a "caravan" is no longer a vehicle and 'becomes' a dwelling if someone is "habituating" in it.
Firstly be aware that there is nothing in the Building Code of Australia that "changes the structure if it is 'lived in'. "
Secondly, the definition if habituating is that it is lived in PERMANENTLY, and of course a tiny house is not permanently fixed to the ground and is therefore, legally, considered temporary.
18th July 2025 - Update. The VIC Building Appeal Authority ruled that a tiny house is NOT subject to the building act, thus the breach to remedy is not relevant.
SHOUT OUT TO PORT STEPHENS NSW
I googled. Easily found this short simple paragraph on the Port Stephens Website. They have addressed Tiny Houses without endless legislative jargon.
ALL DONE IN ONE PARAGRAPH!
Do I think the regulation is ideal, perfect and what the tiny home community want? Not really,
However, this is GREAT, SIMPLE & CLEAR!
How hard is it for a council to write these few words. TODAY.
note: the 'member of the owners household' is very easy to overcome. Ask the Q+A's session for the answer to this.
PODCAST How a Tiny Home Policy was implemented in Mount Alexander Shire!
This is possibly the most helpful link for people that would like to change their local council policy.... Listen to how it was done - including a member of the council explaining what the hurdles were!
KUDOS to all involved, especially the pioneer of this campaign - Fred's Tiny Houses/Trailers.
BRISBANE CITY COUNCIL
Interesting that Brisbane City Council do not put on a limit of stay in a 'caravan' on your private property. Could it be that they lost a court case regarding this? Here is a Deep Dive into Brisbane City Council and why you CAN live in your tiny house there, by Jonathan Sriranganat
www.jonathansri.com/brisbanetinyhouserules/
WOOHOO - WA
State Government has over-ridden local council with a carte blanche 2 year Tiny House on wheels rule.
Councils are still welcome to do what ESPERANCE has done, or CAPEL/BODDINGTON/RAVENSTHORPE and take the 2 year limit to 5, 10, 100 years... but this is a WIN for advocacy and also a stark message to councils who issue "show causes" in a bid to stop people trying to live a peaceful life in their tiny home/ caravan.
Despite this ruling in 2024, only 7 WA councils have updated and published their Tiny House Policy in line with the 2 year rule . Keeping the Tiny House scene as 'muddy as possible' adds to the constant confusion and nay-saying of how councils are treating tiny houses.
This does go to show that it IS INDEED LOCAL COUNCILS who are dragging their heels and giving the NIMBYism their all.
DO I GET KICKED OUT AFTER 2 YEARS?
Not at all. Be aware that what the WA Government here have done is work this tiny house ruling into existing frameworks in place for people to live in their tiny houses whilst building - which has a timeframe on it. This meant that the ruling could be implemented quickly and efficiently if worded as TWO YEARS.
You are able to renew.
Within 2 years there is time for alternative legislation to be implemented.
NO TINY HOUSE OWNER IS GOING TO BE BOOTED OFF ON THE 731st day!
**NEWS** TINY NCC
In September 2024, a Brisbane forum was held by the Construction Code Board to address builders' concerns with implementing some of the new codes - Accessibility and Energy Ratings.
Tiny Home Expo, along with a large number of local builders attended and handed a letter to the CEO, outlining concerns that these codes are in fact not possible to put in to a tiny house.
As a result, we were told that indeed, they did not write the codes with the tiny home industry on their radar, and are sympathetic to the fact that councils are insisting tiny houses meet these codes - putting the industry in a hugely disadvantaged position. They have agreed for a Tiny House Forum to nut out some details - including our request for certain size building to be omitted from some of the codes/standards.
This board has the power to relieve the necessity to reach some of these new codes - and could be a complete Game-Changer on many levels if they do agree to some of the requests we made.
Furthermore, the department kindly attended the Brisbane Expo during bump in, to inspect and get a thorough understanding on how they are built - it was a pleasure to get such dedication and focus from State Government - who are showing much enthusiasm in driving a solution forward. When compared to dealing with individual councils (whom we have to beg and drag to an expo) - it is clear that State initiatives towards the housing crisis are far more discerning and could be the answer we have been looking for.
Obviously any step forward we receive here in QLD, will be immediately tasked direct to all other states to follow suit.
The crucial meeting is in November 2024 postponed to July 2025 due to change of State government and Fed Government Vote.
The workshop went ahead on 14th July - with a huge turnout from tiny house builders in person and online. : A video link will be uploaded on that meeting.
Building Industry Leaders - mistaken by expandable container importers
As a result of a conversation with a HIA board member at the same meeting in September 2024, the Tiny Home Expo organiser was cornered by a Plumbing regulator on the non-compliant and 'terrible plumbing' of all tiny houses, and a barrage of accusations was purged, stemming from frustrations of compliance officers in this field.... ONLY TO REALISE 30 MINUTES IN, THEY ARE MEANING CHINESE IMPORTED EXPANDABLES.
This is not the first time "Tiny Houses" have been mistaken as Chinese Expandables. (Not helped by Chinese Importers mis-marketing themselves as Tiny Houses!)
These sub-par imports claiming "No council needed" on their websites have been the achilles heel to advocacy efforts on many occasions.
Unfortunately, the expandable import businesses have no idea of the havoc caused to the industry.
As a result, conversations are being had with Industry Experts on separating TINY HOMES, from Chinese expandables, so the industry is not tarred with the same brush.
We can not claim that tiny house builders are building safe, compliant homes, if an expandable house is a representation of standards adhered to.
Expandables are a very cheap, possibly excellent temporary/disaster management solution - but we feel as an industry, we will never receive council approvals, compliance and 'dwelling' status for insurance and bank loans, while they are parading as 'tiny houses'.
Simply removing 'Tiny Houses" from their business names and marketing, would mean everything to us who are advocating for acceptance from regulators.
Note: if you are considering buying one, we recommend joining this facebook group and reading ALL the comments first to understand the myriad of issues and additional costs that can be incurred.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/140270552413414
Legal stuff that is handy to read
SCONE NSW COUNCIL - Keep trying
Yarra Ranges Council - Building Appeals Board RULES: Decision
NSW : Scone Council tried to fine and take Murrurundi man Mark Middleton to court over a car port and a studio in his back garden. Magistrate Kevin Hockey said he could see how the regulations could be confusing and dismissed the charge and fine. (link: https://www.981powerfm.com.au/local-news/council-turn-up-to-court-but-still-lose/)
SO, Scone have now threatened a whopping $1,00,000 fine on a Tiny Home (on wheels) Dweller, and additional $10k per day until they get their way!
Citing that the 'caravan needs a DA' - However, you can see the NSW land and Environment Court's position on Caravans and DA's, in a previous case, which ends in the Judges remarks: I find that the structure is a caravan which is exempt from any requirement for approval under the LGA or the EPA. It is lawfully on the site and the Council’s order should be revoked. (link: https://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/nsw/NSWLEC/2018/1159.html)
With any luck Scone Council will also lose this case, because the owners have engaged a lawyer.
Yarra Ranges Council - Building Appeals Board RULES: Decision
Yarra Ranges Council - Building Appeals Board RULES: Decision
Update: this story really lays out the facts. Personally, I disagree that the caravan needs to be treated as a dwelling - Mount Alexander Shire didn't need to - nor did they need State to change any laws - it is in fact something Yarra Ranges Council can implement.
UPDATE: Because Evrin Sen decided to move to a nicer area, with a nicer council - a lot of people think this case is lost... when in fact the Building Appeals Board did RULE as follows.
the Building Appeals Board released a decision on 18 July 2025 that, in that case, the tiny home “is on wheels, can be moved and is a registerable vehicle (caravan) and therefore it is not classified as a building under the Building Act 1993.”
Bega, NSW Council move on tiny house
A petition/ Change.org has been launched to help MANU who is battling this council.
Unfortunately we have been unable to get consistent information to the back-story of this issue. The tiny house may/ or may not be built on wheels and is possibly on agricultural land and there is concern over the waste water / sewerage being used.
It is HUGELY unlikely that a council - even Bega Council - would demand a 'demolish order', without a Show Cause, and other pre-litigation efforts.
Without the missing information (which we have requested) it is hard to judge if this is a case of an awful council not understanding their own due process procedures, or if indeed it is a mistake by the tiny house owner for building a self-made structure on agricultural land without implementing proper environmental considerations.
UPDATE: The case was escalated to the Land and Environment Court of NSW, with a hearing scheduled for December 2025
(Despite not having the details needed, If the owners have done the right thing - have a VIN registerable trailer and have looked after their grey water - I can safely predict based on all precedences, that the ruling will be a win for the resident.)
The SAGA of WANNEROO, WA
Ummm... disconnect a certified composting toilet??
Oh My! Strap In for this one!
A Wanneroo local bought a tiny house on wheels, set it up (but I believe was not living in it), called the council to see if it was OK - no problem, and then nearly 2 years later a NEIGHBOUR COMPLAINED.
The threats of fines, and calling the Tiny House an ANCILLARY DWELLING was where everything got quite horrible, and the gentleman involved was seriously effected, scared out of wits and completely stressed out. Shame on you council for scaring the wits out of a pensioner.
That lovely gentleman, then got wind that the TINY HOME EXPO was coming to WA, and had chosen Wanneroo Showgrounds to hold the Expo.
Unknowing of the effect this was going to have, said gentleman called the council and said he thought it was a joke that the Expo was in Wanneroo considering the way they were treating him.
SHOCKING - WANNEROO CANCELS OUR EXPO AS A RESULT!
The conversation I had with the council official on this was absolutely BIZZARE! Insanely fretting about people coming to Wanneroo and all these people were going to be setting up their tiny houses in Wanneroo LGA, and having absolutely no understanding of the council rules on tiny houses or the state framework for tiny houses whatsoever. The conversation ends with: "WANNEROO COUNCIL ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR BRAND"!!
LOL!
This caused our event business to literally spiral, and my poor partner/site manager to have a complete breakdown, all while trying to find another site at short notice, and the subsequent costs to us was enormous.
Ironically, a few months before, Wanneroo Showgrounds had held a Caravan Show! Clearly they have no idea that Tiny Houses are considered a caravan. - and they're not banning the caravan show in case someone buys one and parks it in their driveway (keep in mind the said Tiny House was NOT being lived in, so there is simply no difference to buying a Jayco and parking it out the front of your house!
This inspired me to reach out to the gentleman involved, and his daughter contacted me. -and what an intrepid, trooper of a daughter she was! Taking my advice to STOP the communications with council all the while they are referring to an 'ancillary dwelling' and 'building codes', - and pushing to get all the wordology changed to "CARAVAN: [VIn Number]". This worked and whilst they initially doubled down, they did yield to it being a caravan and probably realised that legally they were not going to win, it is simply an empty caravan, sitting on private land.
THIS WAS A TERRIBLE KNEE-JERK REACTIVE COUNCIL - and they deserve to have their "Brand" effected. !!
They are on my bad council list , along with ALL South Australian councils, and the Gold Coast! (haha).
PREPOSTEROUS TASMANIA
Ummm... disconnect a certified composting toilet??
Ummm... disconnect a certified composting toilet??
It's a SAD SAD day when you read the proposed new bylaws this crazy council has put forward.
Permits and fees for having a caravan on your own property. Not allowed to stay in them, live in them, or charge to have someone keep their caravan on YOUR land.
It is shocking that they have done this knowing full well that the most effected will be those living in vehicles - affordably, under the current economic status of the whole country.
This is the OPPOSITE of what is needed in any state at the moment.
If you are inclined to SUBMIT AGAINST this recommended bylaw - do write to:
Submissions must be lodged by 4.00pm on Tuesday 10 February 2026 (two weeks time).
1. Important: if you can, SNAIL MAIL a submission to the GM (anyone can do so). Postal details below.
2. Also if you can, call or email the CHC Mayor and Councillors since they represent the community.
Ummm... disconnect a certified composting toilet??
Ummm... disconnect a certified composting toilet??
Ummm... disconnect a certified composting toilet??
BRISBANE 21st Jan 2026.
-New reports coming in that a neighbour complaint sparked a Show Cause to a suburban setting tiny house - initially with the usual "it is an ancillary dwelling".... and now it is a caravan, but the plumbing is not permitted?
Context, the house is not hooked up to grey water or sewerage. The Composting Toilet (which is a QLD certified composting toilet) needs to be 'disconnected' to fulfil obligations on the plumbing rules and regs?
I will look into this further as I think the same way BUILDING REGS do not apply to a Tiny House on wheels (AKA Caravan) - neither will PLUMBING REGS - unless fixed to the land, or digging into the land in some way was done. (I have been told nothing is under the ground. The grey water system has not been set up at all. Just the composting toilet in place, which means the material enters a composting box, above ground only.
QUEENSLAND
The Issue with QLD
Queensland is now officially the only state where there is not a single council with a Tiny House policy, and yet more people live tiny, and more tiny house builders are in Qld than any other state.
Most local councils do not seek out Tiny Houses - they act on neighbour complaint only.
Here is a comprehensive post on WHAT the problem with that is, and why State must supply 'cover' to local Councils so they can allow people to live in their tiny houses long (or longer) term.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CQwqZxvXF/
This is OUTRAGOUS!
Advocates needed in the Shire of Exmouth area to see if this council can be 'reasonable' and honour the State ministers ruling that people can live in tiny houses and caravans on private property for 24 months.
A PDF on new rules set by the Shire of Exmouth WA, where they wish to have a say on whether your family can come and stay over the holidays in their caravan on your private property. Whilst the 5 day limit is crazy... to demand an APPLICATION FEE just makes the blood boil!
https://www.abc.net.au/.../minister-intervenes.../104018920